Ep. 156 The Talisman, Part 3, chapters 27-33 and Interlude



In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Talisman, Part 3, “A Collision of Worlds,” chapters 27-33, and Interlude.

  • Introduction (00:00)
  • The power of storytelling (01:31)
  • A collision of worlds (11:37)
  • Late world building (22:41)
  • Dark Tower Thinnies (28:58)
  • Yuck-King It Up (30:07)
  • Fun Stuff (34:13)
  • Other Worlds Than These (36:14)
    • Sean: White House Plumbers
    • Jay: The Quick and the Dead
  • Outro (44:25)

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Next Episode: The Talisman, Part 4, “The Talisman,” chapters 34-39.


Bonus Episode 45 – “The Cat From Hell” (Patreon Clip)



A new bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came is live for all of our Patrons. What follows is an excerpt of our discussion of the 1977 short story “The Cat from Hell.”

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Ep. 155 The Talisman, Part 3, chapters 20-26



In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Talisman, Part 3, “A Collision of Worlds,” chapters 20-26.

  • Introduction (00:00)
  • The Sunlight Home (01:47)
  • The Territories are a reflection of our world (13:56)
  • Sacrifice is necessary along a hero’s journey (20:14)
  • Dark Tower Thinnies (24:31)
  • Yuck-King It Up (27:04)
  • Fun Stuff (28:27)
  • Other Worlds Than These (31:48)
    • Jay: See How They Run (2022)
    • Sean: Dead Ringers (2023)
  • Outro (37:35)

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Next Episode: The Talisman, Part 3, “A Collision of Worlds,” chapters 27-33 and Interlude.


Hiatus Announcement



Greetings, constant listeners! Thank you so much for listening to our show. You may have noticed we have missed our regularly scheduled publish dates. Everything is OK, but there has been a lot going on in our personal lives. So, we are going to take a hiatus. We have all the Talisman episodes recorded and they will come out as we edit and post them. We also have several bonus episodes for our Patrons recorded and they too will be coming out soon, too.

While we’re on hiatus, keep in touch! You can email us at twoguysdarktower@gmail.com and our Twitter handle is @2guysdarktower.


Ep. 154 The Talisman, Part 2, chapters 14-19



In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Talisman,  Part 2, “The Road of Trials,” Chapters 14-19.

  • Introduction (00:13)
  • Cool world building (02:06)
  • Too much “Y” and not enough “A” (12:36)
  • Dark Tower Thinnies (20:19)
  • Yuck-King it Up (25:39)
  • Fun Stuff (27:21)
  • Other Worlds than These (31:52)
  • Outro (37:09)

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Other Worlds Than These topics:

  • Jay: Smokey and the Bandit (1977), starring Burt Reynolds, Sally Field, Jerry Reed, Jackie Gleason, and Paul Williams.
  • Jay: Unspooled podcast, hosted by Paul Scheer and Amy Nicholson.
  • Sean: Beef (2023), starring Steven Yeun, Ali Wong, and Joseph Lee. 

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Next Episode: The Talisman, Part 3, “A Collision of Worlds,” Chapters 20-26.


Ep. 153 The Talisman, Part 2, chapters 6-13



In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Talisman, Part II, chapters 6-13.

  • Introduction (00:00)
  • Struggling with the book (01:45)
  • Jack’s first trial (05:54)
  • Jack’s dad in the Territories (14:01)
  • Dark Tower Thinnies (19:52)
  • Yuck-King It Up (23:06)
  • Fun Stuff (25:54)
  • Other Worlds Than These topics (31:21):
    • Jay: Succession on HBOMax
    • Sean: Chernobyl on HBOMax
  • Outro (36:24)

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Next Episode: The Talisman, Part 2, chapters 14-19.


Ep. 152 The Talisman, Part 1, chapters 1-5



In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Talisman, Part 1, “Jack Lights Out.”

  • Introduction (00:13)
  • Recap (00:50)
  • Publication/Our history (01:57)
  • Things are getting started (07:30)
  • Jack’s relationships (13:24)
  • Dark Tower Thinnies (20:30)
  • Yuck-King it Up (23:34)
  • Thank you, Patrons! (24:54)
  • Fun Stuff (25:42)
  • Other Worlds than These (32:07)
  • Outro (35:24)

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Other Worlds Than These topics:

  • Jay: Star Trek: Picard, Season 3, starring Patrick Stewart, Jonathan Frakes, Gates McFadden, LeVar Burton, Michael Dorn, Marina Sirtis, Brent Spiner, Jeri Ryan, Michelle Hurd, and Ed Speleers
  • Sean: Only Murders in the Building, starring Steve Martin, Martin Short, and Selena Gomez

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Next Episode: The Talisman, Part 2, “The Road of Trials,” Chapters 6-13.


Ep. 151 Carrie, Part 3



In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Carrie, Part 3, “Wreckage,” and our final thoughts on the novel.

  • Introduction (00:13)
  • Ending structure is not great (01:49)
  • Ending writing is good (07:55)
  • Dark Tower Thinnies (12:20)
  • Yuck King It Up (13:41)
  • Reviews (15:43)
  • Our thoughts (20:05)
  • Fun Stuff (20:48)
  • Other Worlds Than These (24:06):
    •  Perry Mason on HBO
    •  The Last of Us on HBO
  • Outro (31:49)

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Next Episode: The Talisman, Part 1, “Jack Lights Out.”


Bonus Episode 43 – The Dead Zone adaptation (Patreon Clip)



A new bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came is live for all of our Patrons. What follows is an excerpt of our discussion of the 1983 film The Dead Zone.

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Ep. 150 Carrie, Part 2



In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Carrie, Part 2, “Prom Night.”

  • Introduction (00:13)
  • Recap (00:49)
  • Carrie’s powers (02:13)
  • If Carrie didn’t die (07:48)
  • King’s characters (12:50)
  • Dark Tower Thinnies (24:02)
  • Yuck-King it Up (26:57)
  • Fun Stuff (29:19)
  • Other Worlds than These (36:45)
  • Outro (40:59)

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Next Episode: Carrie, Part 3, “Wreckage.”